I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread where people could post their experiences standing up for themselves.
You can read more about the tactics and laws in detail in this article. I’m not sure how it works around the world, but in the United States these apply.
11/29 - Smoke Shop
So I just went into the local Smoke shop in my area (wild bills) to get some kratom and some vape juice because usps sucks as usual.
There were three employees, and immediately when I walked in i was asked to wear a mask. I said no thank you, and then the manager said it’s our policy and I said that’s fine but I don’t feel comfortable with anyone suggesting a medical intervention that is untrained.
After a few back and forths about them being order followers and this being a place of public accommodation, regardless if privately owned or not, I suggested to get the owner on the phone.
The manager handed me his cell phone and I said hello, just so we’re clear what’s happening right now, you are denying me service due to medical discrimination. He said no it’s policy and we’re just trying to avoid fines.
He then tried comparing it to no shirt no shoes no service and I clarified by saying this was different because it was an medical intervention.
I also said it doesn’t matter who gave the order, but it is you personally, and all of your employees that are liable to pay the fine that I will be issuing to everyone present for $10k for discrimination and trying to coerce me into allowing a medical intervention without any training. Is anyone here trained to handle me if I were to collapse due to wearing a mask?
On the phone, the owner began saying that they could accommodate me from curbside.
At this point one of the employees asked me which type of kratom I wanted and I told him, then I handed the phone back to the manager (while completely disregarding the phone call) and went with the employee that got me my kratom over to the juice and told him what I wanted.
Nothing else was said by anyone except my total, and when I said thank you and have a good day.
The most important part of all of this is that once I exerted that the order followers would be liable, not the owners, the employee changed his tune. These are the ones we need to educate.
They seemed to turn right around when I explained that it was the order followers that would be subject to the fines.
I just wanted to share this experience for anyone saying that they’ve been hassled and doesn’t know the process or have enough confidence to exercise their rights.
It is imperative that we educate the order followers in all of this. I’m sure these employees legit did not know that they were the ones that would be liable when anyone issued any fines or sued for damages.
This video gave me a lot of insight, and clarified the wording to use.
Time to stand up!
Here’s a link to the thread on Twitter.
I didn’t end up going to the dentist, because I’m going to first try to regrow my teeth by ingesting chicken egg shells once my chickens start producing. I figure if I absolutely need to get the teeth removed then they can wait since they aren’t causing any issues…
So today I went to mail something at the post office… I get up to the counter and the slave tells me to make sure I wear a mask next time because they can deny me service.
I politely say no they cannot. He then gets an attitude and states that he can. I said do you have a Medical degree and practice medicine actively
He said he didn’t have to because it was a government facility. I proceeded to ask if they had medical staff on site in case I were to collapse after allowing an untrained professional perform a medical intervention on me.
He then Again said he would deny me service next time. I mentioned a lien and a $10k fine for himself and anyone else involved and he stuck to his guns.
(This conversation took a while because I paid in all dimes and quarters…)
At this point I was seriously wondering why, if he did Indeed possess the authority to deny me service, why he did not deny me service…
From what I seen today, he was fully aware that he had no choice but to accommodate me…
Either way, I mailed my package, paid in change, and left the store.
Next time I’ll be sure to mail my Package using the method I lay out in my blog, that utilizes the United States Post Office rather than USPS.
Here’s the article…
If he wasn’t aware that he was out of line, then I think this would have been a wake-up call.